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@todd Just wanted to say that you guys are really crushing it. I am going on year 2 of ownership with my L13v3 and I find that I appreciate it more every day. Really well made solid construction. I really am looking forward to everything you guys come out with. Keep up the great work!

@gamingonlinux You mean all browsers are turning into one open source browser solution instead of the other? Maybe it is because the other has terrible performance and battery life? Being open source and supporting people's privacy doesn't fix things like performance or internet compliance. Not saying this to bash Mozilla, just provide a few counterpoints.You would think with the millions Mozilla makes in search deals that they'd be able to hire more software engineers.

@todd Thanks for sharing and keep up the most excellent work!

@sir I completely agree that the cost does not justify unjustly handling your customer or fellow human beings. We agree 100% We just don't agree that FLOSS is the only vehicle to do something about that.

@sir However, I now better see the framing for your comments on Slack and open source projects. It makes more sense to me now.

@sir The very real material cost is time. Just like the time it took for the plumber to learn their trade and be a professional in it. The complexity of some software is beyond rocket science. People have poured their heart and soul into code. I see a very real and tangible material cost there.

@sir And furthermore, you can make propreitary software and do none of the things you cited.

@sir That can be all true and I still am not swayed. The reason for that, is because as a software developer myself, I don't see any other profession in the entire existence of humanity willing to be so charitable. FLOSS zealots focus on programmers and not on any other industry with their zeal. If my plumber, for example, doesn't need to essentially teach me his trade, and give me his tools, and not pay for it, then why should I, as a default option have to? The plumber isn't evil.

@sir We have differing opinions on what constitutes an evil corporation. I believe there are evil ones out there, but simply making proprietary software doesn't default you to being one. I see a ton of value in open sourcing software, but to make it mandatory or you're a dirt bag is a kind of wack ideology I can't get down with no matter how it is spun. Now tell me your software is secure, private, or free (as in speech) and then there isn't an alternative, it has to be FLOSS.

@sir And also completely arbitrary. You can develop open source software on and using proprietary software. Not everybody drinks the FLOSS cool aid, and that's ok.

@kyle Indeed, however it might be time invest in some tagging time. Seems like the benefits of it will be felt for a long time to come. ๐Ÿ‘

@kyle @don That is a very interesting idea. I could understand wanting your phone to be a nextcloud node, but I'm not sure it is a good idea to keep all of your data on your phone, no matter how secure. SSH is in the bag. But I'm really interesting in seeing some VNC capabilities. Those two make one computing device possible for me.

My problem with Switching Social and its efforts, is not that it isn't helpful to those looking to rid themselves of Google, etc. but rather that it makes assumptions about what to list and what qualifies. Their browser options for example are a good example. If you think that Firefox and derivatives of it are the only solutions, you are being hugely misinformed.

@dallin @purism That sounds pretty familiar. Mainly the getting a job with Purism. ๐Ÿ‘

It is a pain sometimes ensuring graphical compliance with applications on Linux. VMware Workstation is a big one. You have to find the solution off of StackExchange instead of their own support channels.

โ€œWhat a wonderful thought it is that some of the best days of our lives havenโ€™t even happened yet.โ€ โ€” Anne Frank

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Let me throw in another that I recently bought that I really like: Libretrend Wildebeest. It is a fantastic laptop! I run elementary os on both my librem and it. Great pricing as well.

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